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Old 01-22-2010, 08:08 PM
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http://www.fastseduction.com/discuss...d=100370&fid=8
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Originally Posted by TVA Oslo View Post
I don't really trust him after all he have told me, it was pretty vague.

Like he claimed laying 7 girls in a week end to me. And then I asked him for sex drive advices, and that I was amazed how he had such a drive, he suddently said... he laid them over a mounth...

I asked if they were one night stands... No they were FB's...

There have been other such weird messages I've received from him. I have posten them before, I can post them again if you want.


This is like... ERhm okey!

I mean I wouldn't bother bringing 30 girls at the club. I used to head out with some modells ETC. I actually started with pawning and entourages. Fact is I don't seen the point. You can close quickly without doing it, so why do you need it?

Also if you want to find out about entourage game, read about it in mystery/styles archive, that's were i found it.. and surely he did too

He is more a pick up celebrity than guru. He is famous, which doesn't nescessary means skilled.

Also his manager is Gambler», one of the biggest money whores in the community with litterally no ethics.

A guy complained about Adams game...

"I only get smiles, but no lays"

And yes this is what social proof might give you (not even sure other girls sees you with other girls)

But the lays? That's another question.
And the smiles generated by social proof is maybe 10% of the seduction lol.

But yeah, surely, not pick up related, I would maybe buy his work in order to get a cooler social circle for sure.

http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/...tml?highlight=

Here is the guy complaining.

"Get laid, not liked"- Gunwitch».

So yeah the fact is, I will give him a shot, because I think his networking skills are awesome, even if mine ain't that bad either, but I think I have something to learn from him when it comes to get social circle (nothing to do with getting laid...)

I will head to his free webinar, why don't you join?
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Old 01-22-2010, 08:10 PM
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AFC Adam is full of shit
Its blatantly obvious
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:06 PM
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I he'd have lived........if I'd been in state.
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Old 01-22-2010, 11:03 PM
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all puatraining staff are a complete joke
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:17 AM
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adam is the real deal
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:46 AM
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Yeah Adam is full of shit, one of the worst charlatans.
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Old 01-23-2010, 07:47 AM
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Ahh, Adam Lyons!
Guy makes me go "meh!"
His selling point is that his game appears structured enough to appeal to nerds, but "natural" enough to appear normal. He's got the gift of the gab, and is attractive without being a pretty boy.
Subsequently, he's marketable. From what I've seen and read about his "game", it sounds "scientific", and he phrases it in very positive, respectful tones.
With a lot of pick-up artists sounding extremely weird and miscognistic, he's a breath of fresh air.
The likes of Mystery would get laughed off most TV shows, especially here in the UK. They'd view him as a try-hard who dresses like Huggy Bear to boff club skanks...which is true!
I posted this on Barry's board, and this is pretty much how he explains his system.
If you broke down Adam's pretentious algebra
game, it basically goes as follows.
That's it. To be honest, it's nothing but plain common sense, plus a little bit of structure and some guidelines so you know when to ask for a number, or go in for a kiss.
What's terrifying is that, when you look at Adam's game, is how obvious it is. Granted, having someone give you a few pointers on how to make interesting small talk and not act or stand like a sex offender can help...but really, people charge thousands for this stuff?
I just don't believe that 'Social Circle' game really works unless you happen to live a fairly specific lifestyle - Adam comes from a PR background, and ran guest lists for 'top London nightspots' fairly cheesy R'n'B/Pop nights, basically!
It's not really a transferable model.
Ben
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